The Northeast could be self-sufficient. If all 11 counties were to secede, the resulting state would have a population of a little more than 350,000—slightly more people than live in Tampa, Florida. "Try to join China"? ... Can vouch the the northeast will not secede for Democrats. I disagree with their pathetic management of money and lack of representation to the NE residents. This discontent grew to give rise to a secessionist movement, led by state Sen. Frank “Hank” Salvatore, among others. In such a case the south and Midwest could remain industrialized and we in the Northeast could trade with them without having to try and run a government with people who represent the interests of KKK members and cops who kill people of color in cold blood. The Northeast is the other logical choice actually. Should the Northeast secede from Philadelphia? A Democrat president who orders the military to attack the south would likely be on much shakier ground then a Republican who orders the military to attack the west and northeast. It was a bit of a surprise to read tweets from Lanny Davis, the famous attorney and associate of Bill and Hillary Clinton, detailing the possible secession of … The movement, similar to those seen at the state level in Oregon, California and Virginia, seeks to initiate a discussion with Northeast Philadelphia’s state and federal representatives to put the proposal in front of lawmakers in Harrisburg. Perhaps these liberal Democrat cities decide to secede in response, and form what I like to call the “United City-States of America”. (A poll from Public Policy Polling reports that 25 percent of Republicans would like their state to secede from the Union. The critical finding underpinning the ruling that Texas could not secede from the United States was that, following its admission to the United States in 1845, Texas had become part of "an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible states". The diverse residents of the Far NE feel disenfranchised from the city due to a lack of infrastructure spending in our areas although our neighborhoods maintain a high level of employment … Canada is a country that more espouses are values. Houston Southwest Southeast Northwest Northeast. I'm guessing, as a practical matter, it would have to follow the procedure required of an amendment: 2/3 each chamber, 2/3 of the states. I saw the link to this story at an outlet called Liberty Hangout, where they clearly feel that this initiative could be an important stepping stone in the secession movement. Its potential for hydropower could go a long way in addressing India’s longstanding energy shortfalls. Currently, there is only one Republican-held Council and state representative district, both located in the Northeast. In a … KTRK. A Biden presidency could keep things calm for awhile. Though far from New Delhi’s corridors of power, the Northeast ought to increasingly preoccupy the concerns of its strategists. Here's why.....we are not Chinese!!! This discontent grew to give rise to a secessionist movement, led by state Sen. Frank “Hank” Salvatore, among others. There is no debating or arguing with these people — they live in a world cloaked in conspiracy theories, completely devoid of reality. Aug 17, 2014 #30. If the Confederacy had been allowed to secede, ... the territory of the Rump USA might have been limited to the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and Midwest. This is the blurb accompanying the petition, which had 1,200 signatures as of publication of this award-winning Crossing Broad article: In light of the recent events brought about by the George Floyd protests, the NE Philadelphia section of the city is feeling more slighted than ever by a lack of news coverage, defacing of our local businesses, and the threats against our neighborhoods. Seceding would be counterproductive— the rest of NYC serves as a barrier from the Upstate for Staten. We hear of California or Oregon wishing to secede, but I propose they do not go it alone. It is the easiest and best solution, and would leave us a contiguous country, connected on both coasts. I suggest that the West coast and the Northeast secede from the U.S. and join Canada. Before the Civil War, New England considered secession at least once, maybe more, and was more pro-British than the expansionist South and West. Congratulations to these Northeast Philly scholars! Liberty County. Lest you think ... 300,000 Ohioans Could Lose Unemployment Assistance. Rick Perry, who paid lip service to secession at a tax-day rally earlier this year, was less predicting America's downfall than feeding chum to a riled-up, "Secede! Secession would only speed the process as I don't see the NE becoming a free-market mecca in the future. Following the rioting and looting within city limits, opportunist and vandals took it upon themselves to split from the protests and take their unwarrented (sic) violence into NE Philadelphia neighborhoods while Mayor Kenney left many of us with no choice but to protect our own homes and businesses. Hey, Ohio, Let's Secede! New England and its western extension the Great Lakes region (not including the Ohio Valley) and Upper Midwest would have … With an estimated population of between 350,000 and 528,810, the new jurisdiction could also become the second largest in Pennsylvania, in front of Pittsburgh’s 301,048. Surprised???? In the mid-1930s, the Walsenburg World-Independent proposed that Huerfano County secede from the state. The Northeast, perhaps pushing as far west as Illinois and Wisconsin, could happily live together. In Ripton, where a well-organized campaign has been underway for months, the vote Tuesday in favor of secession was resounding: 163 voters cast ballots to secede; 107 chose to stay. If the bill succeeds, this would be an important domino for the secession movement, and help inspire other disaffected communities across the nation to secede. Secession, as accomplished by the Southern states in 1860 and 1861 and as discussed by the North at the Hartford … Frustrated by rising crime, declining quality of life and the political policies of Mayor Jim Kenney and District Attorney Larry Krasner, a group of Northeast Philadelphia residents is circulating a petition to secede from the city by creating an independent county. If we could get England to secede maybe everyone else would come back. Shortly after his election, Frank “Hank” Salvatore (1922-2014), a Republican state representative from Far Northeast Philadelphia, submitted a bill to the Pennsylvania legislature proposing that Northeast Philadelphia secede from the city to become a separate entity to be known as Liberty County. TRI-CITIES, Tenn. (WJHL) – On June 8, 1861, Tennessee leaders voted to secede from the United States. Water rights would become the big issue. Honest to God, this might make a lot of sense. In the 1980s, many Northeasters became more and more discontented with rising city taxes and a perceived imbalance in the services they received for them. We won’t formally secede, in the Civil War sense of the word. 2. That Midwest was a lot different than the northeast culturally and economically than the Northeast and new England. Scalia’s positions are the most vapid. ... the Northeast Corridor is the only part of our national train system that makes an operating profit. Posted By Vince Grzegorek email@example.com> on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:56 AM. “Every time I want to go out, I’d rather go into Bucks [County] as opposed to dealing with the crime, closures and homeless encampments that are being allowed to pop up in Center City.”. Sometimes less is more, and if we let part of the city break off and do their own thing, then we can focus more on issues in center city and surrounding neighborhoods. With emotions running high after Tuesday's election, some disenfranchised Oregonians are calling for the state to secede from the union. So my best guess is that if a group of states tried to secede, the other states would just let them go. Geographically, most states like this can’t just secede when the blue areas are simply clustered around cities. Used to ref soccer games at the Ramp turf field next to Father Judge. If the group had its way, Philadelphia’s northeastern border would end in Mayfair, and the new county would extend to the current border with Bucks County to the north and Montgomery County to the west. It is the easiest and best solution, and would leave us a contiguous country, connected on both coasts. Nearly 1 million Americans have signed petitions calling for secession including over 100,000 in Texas and over 50,000 in Georgia. There have been some proposals out west, notably CA, OR, and WA, where you could split off the eastern portions of these states from the coastal areas and potentially create new states or annex these sections to adjacent states. The diverse residents of the Far NE feel disenfranchised from the city due to a lack of infrastructure spending in our areas although our neighborhoods maintain a high level of employment and tax revenue input. I saw the link to this story at an outlet called Liberty Hangout, where they clearly feel that this initiative could be an important stepping stone in the secession movement. By Matt O’Brien Associated Press, March 11, 2016, 9:25 a.m. Several New England lawmakers are … It stands for "United." Posted By Vince Grzegorek firstname.lastname@example.org> on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:56 AM. Lest you think the rancor and hatred of the election season is … Moving the border and creating a new county would require approval from the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and Senate, which are both currently under Republican control. (A poll from Public Policy Polling reports that 25 percent of Republicans would like their state to secede from the Union. The Poor Man’s Long Island— bless. A similar movement has started in California. And, did you know that after the Civil War, Lincoln thought he could just stop the "green backs", the fake dollars from the slimmy bankers, and go back to the REAL money backed by gold and silver! Northeastern Colorado Is Getting Ready to Secede With Gandhi as a guide, several Colorado counties are looking to become a new state. Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., speaks to reporters as he returns to the Senate Chamber at the Capitol, early Thursday, Jan. 7, 2021, in Washington. Art History 101 owner Pross earns Council citation. We hear of California or Oregon wishing to secede, but I propose they do not go it alone. It is a clear case of taxation without representation or services. If the CSA left we could have seen the Midwestern States want to succeed. This was a pet project of Sam T. Taylor, a sports editor, who went on to become a long-serving state senator, continuing to pursue the idea unsuccessfully. The ‘Progressive’ thinking of the mayor & the majority of city council members has no benefit on the communities within the borders of NE Philadelphia,” wrote Bill Kline, one of the petitioners. ; In 1973, nearby Costilla County had expressed interest in seceding from Colorado and joining New Mexico. A similar movement has started in … Canada is a country that more espouses are values. ; In 1973, nearby Costilla County had expressed interest in seceding from Colorado and joining New Mexico. Split from Philadelphia entirely? Nearly 1 million Americans have signed petitions calling for secession including over 100,000 in Texas and over 50,000 in Georgia. ... of this is to mention technology and the fact that high speed rail could connect the blue Great Lakes region with the Northeast through Canada. In no way an opposition to the positive progress as a country, this is a localized issue since the 1980’s when Senator Frank “Hank” Salvatore first suggested the Northeast Secession Movement. Never mind food. The Northeast is the other logical choice actually. Not so sure about the rest, though. Alain Vigneault’s Comments Sparked Controversy, But Should They Have? Philly is too big as it is, the revenue and spending situation is FUBAR, and we could use some streamlining in the very near future. Scalia’s positions are the most vapid. This proposal for secession isn’t the first effort residents of Northeast Philadelphia have made to leave the city. And, did you know that after the Civil War, Lincoln thought he could just stop the "green backs", the fake dollars from the slimmy bankers, and go back to the REAL money backed by gold and silver! Far Northeast Philadelphia is a Republican island in an otherwise Democratic city whose only contribution to local politics was a half-baked idea to secede over 40 years ago. People always talk Cali because it is a single, massive state. I suggest that the West coast and the Northeast secede from the U.S. and join Canada. I will sign the petition to have Northeast Philadelphia secede and become its own county. The entire kind of American political impulse is to separate, to secede," said Kreitner, noting that plenty of people dismissed the South's threats of an independent Confederacy as a … Also, because I support Law Enforcement and the City leaders do not,” said Patricia McGovern, another petitioner. While Northeast wards voted in high majorities for candidates like Beth Grossman, a Republican from East Falls, for District Attorney, a new progressive voting bloc in other parts of the city has come out in large numbers for candidates like Democratic District Attorney Larry Krasner, Councilmember Helen Gym and Councilmember Kendra Brooks, the Working Families Party candidate who took one of the two minority-party at-large Council seats from Northeast Republican Al Taubenberger in the last election. If the bill succeeds, this would be an important domino for the secession movement, and help inspire other disaffected communities across the nation to secede. Maybe South Philly can also secede since they’re basically functioning as an autonomous zone already. Salvatore introduced a bill in the Senate to allow the Northeast to become a separate county called Liberty County, but the bill failed to progress beyond this stage. In no way an opposition to the positive progress as a country, this is a localized issue since the 1980’s when Senator Frank “Hank” Salvatore first suggested the Northeast Secession Movement. email - email@example.com, Petition Calls for Northeast Philadelphia to Secede from Rest of City, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window). It wasn't the "people" that wanted to secede: it was the large plantation owners, the economic elite of the South, that feared for their money and, in their greed, convinced a large number of Southerners to secede with them so they could continue oppressing Negroes. Let’s revisit the idea of NE Philadelphia as it’s own county, Liberty County. “Northeast Philadelphia does not benefit from the tax monies collected, as our taxes continue to increase. And … "-chanting crowd. Ering says the central government is on the right track to bringing stability to the region, albeit belatedly. 3. Even if the split was peaceful, the economic impacts could be severe. The big question mark would be the vast, mostly rural middle. Crossing Broad is owned and operated by CB Sports LLC, Kevin has been covering Philadelphia sports since 2009. W.Va. governor Justice says he'd welcome Va. counties wanting to secede 'with open arms' The proposal to join Idaho isn't the first effort Oregonians have made to leave the state. I love the Northeast. In Philadelphia, Democrats control the mayor, district attorney and sheriff’s offices.